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Is there an improvement you'd like to see to the way Tabulate works?
[Sun 21 Oct 2007, 10:52AM]
For whatever reason Tabulate doesn't work on my iPhone running 1.1.1 firmware and synced with Safari on Windows.
[Sun 21 Oct 2007, 12:35PM]
I tried Tabulate on my iPhone and it doesn't work either. It just blinks when I run the bookmark and nothing happens when I click on a link. Also running 1.1.1 of iPhone.
I've tried the "find in file" bookmarklet and it works fine.
[Sun 21 Oct 2007, 12:48PM]
Thanks for your comments - I should just confirm that you're doing things in the right order here.
If you're following this procedure and not getting anywhere, leave your comments (with as much detail as possible) below.
[Sun 21 Oct 2007, 1:01PM]
Yes, that is the process I followed. After invoking tabulate from the bookmarks, I don't see any tabulate flag. I also tried to run it in safari version 3.0.3 and I got the following message.
[Sun 21 Oct 2007, 1:03PM]
[Sun 21 Oct 2007, 1:51PM]
Thanks folks -- it appears that Safari for Windows suffers from the same 2084 character limit for bookmarks that's found in IE7.
If anyone's got a better idea, let me know.
[Sun 21 Oct 2007, 1:57PM]
Requiring a network connection to run the script works for me. I'd be interested in testing it out when it's ready. Looks like a really nice tool for the browser. Could you send me an email when it's ready? I think you have my email from the post.
[Sun 21 Oct 2007, 3:10PM]
Requiring a network connection is not a big deal but it might be better if there was an image free, lighter version for Windows.
[Mon 22 Oct 2007, 7:42PM]
Without images the bookmarklet still clocks in at just shy of 7000 chars, so compressing it to size would be difficult.
I've created a remote-loading version, which you can try out on the demo page, but I've hit a further snag.
This is clearly a bug in iTunes, and once resolved, you should be able to install Tabulate via Windows.
Sorry about this -- I'm at least as frustrated about it as you are.
[Tue 23 Oct 2007, 10:22AM]
[Wed 7 Nov 2007, 12:15PM]
Thanks again Joseph. The only issue I don't understand is why Tabulate doesn't work at all on http://www.news.com (CNET). It never brings up the orange flag. I haven't found any other pages that react that way. Keep up the good work. Mike
[Fri 9 Nov 2007, 2:48PM]
I'm having problems however, bookmarked and synced the tabulate link. But when i run it on the iPhone, it doesn't run...using iphone 1.1.1 and itunes 7.4.3 and Internet explorer 7.
When i see the actual bookmark on the iphone, the shortcut still has url encoded symbols where brackets should be. Can't seem to get around it, any suggestions?
[Mon 12 Nov 2007, 10:51AM]
Hi Jeff, that's really strange -- I've tested it in IE6 and I've had reports from Windows users that it works fine for them too. Perhaps they were all IE6 or Safari users. Unfortunately browser support for this sort of stuff is abominable, from both Apple and Microsoft. Mozilla is the only one that gets it right, but then there's no way to sync Mozilla bookmarks to iPhods.
Have you tried Safari for Windows? That certainly works for me. Apologies for the difficulties.
[Wed 21 Nov 2007, 4:06AM]
Is there a way to shut down tabulate after you have opened it, or do you need to close the browser window it is active in?
[Wed 21 Nov 2007, 9:17AM]
AJ, you can just refresh the page, or navigate to a different page.
[Sat 24 Nov 2007, 9:20AM]
Nope not workin for me, I dragged in Safari its on my bookmark, then synch with Itunes to iphone 1.1.2 firmware, goto a page on safari on phone, click bookmarks, see your code but nothing pops up help and thanks
[Thu 29 Nov 2007, 3:45AM]
I've got a million bookmarks in Safari that I don't wanna sync to my iPod, can I install this another way?
[Thu 29 Nov 2007, 5:45AM]
I have so desperately wanted an application like this but, unfortunately it is useless to me. Just as Mr. Johnson mentioned, I have no interest in syncing my bookmarks - the main reason being it wipes out all of my iPhone bookmarks when I do so. It's a shame there is no way to get this on my iPhone without syncing. Can you guys come up with another way to do it? Go Magpies!!!
[Thu 29 Nov 2007, 9:08AM]
Nope, as mentioned before, such functionality is in the lap of the Gods alone (in this case: Apple). Meantime, clean up your bookmarks. The point of syncing is that it should be non-destructive.
[Thu 29 Nov 2007, 11:15AM]
These guys did it for their app. They have an offline version that is bookmarkable within the iPhone/iPod, no syncing. Maybe you could learn from theirs?
[Thu 29 Nov 2007, 2:41PM]
Thanks for the suggestion Joshua, but it's different things. Obviously it's possible to bookmark pages within Safari (including offline pages using the data: URI schema) -- but Tabulate is a script that runs on any page. Not being a page itself, there's simply no user interface mechanism within MobileSafari to bookmark it.
I could of course make it a data: URI offline page, but then you'd be navigating away from the page you're on, somewhat defeating the point. Still, hopefully the Apple folk will recognise the value of native bookmarklet bookmarking at some stage -- I do appreciate that some people are sync-averse.
[Fri 7 Dec 2007, 10:18AM]
"Nope, as mentioned before, such functionality is in the lap of the Gods alone (in this case: Apple)"
Alternatively, you can drag the bookmarklet to your computer's Safari bookmark bar, then go to /users/YOU/Library/Safari/bookmarks.plist and copy the Tabulate info (including the script) from to and paste that in the bookmarks.plist of your phone as I mentionned earlier and save it. No need to restart the phone, just reload the bookmark functionality in mobilesafari.
Either way, works like a charm. Thanks guys for making this bookmarklet.
Wish someone could make a copy/paste link bookmarklet...
[Mon 10 Dec 2007, 3:03AM]
Please consider adding this feature.
It would be nice if I could store the name of a web site inside the bookmarklet to automatically open when the script is called. Everyday I read online news from several site. To use tabulate, I first open the news site, then open the bookmarklet. I would love to reduce this to a one-step process. Perhaps adding a parameter inside the bookmarklet would work. Yes, I would have to modify the bookmarklet for each website I wanted to open in this way, but this advanced feature would be worth it.
[Mon 10 Dec 2007, 6:02AM]
A method for installing bookmarklets from within the iPhone can be seen here. It is kind of a pain, but to not have to sync my bookmarks, I think it's worth it.
[Mon 10 Dec 2007, 8:51AM]
Bryan: actually, this can't be done, I'm afraid. A bookmarklet only operates on the currently active page. It can't navigate to a new URL, somehow smuggling itself on to the new page. Trust me, this is a very good thing for the security of your personal data!
Grady: that's not a bad idea. I like how you've set it up too, with the additional instructions on the second page. Will see about implementing this for Tabulate. (Of course, if anyone wants to do it as a general web service, scraping a user-entered URL for bookmarklets, that'd be super and I'd love to hear about it...)
[Mon 10 Dec 2007, 4:28PM]
I just encapsulated the install bookmarklet functionality into its own bookmarklet, which can be used on any page.
Feel free to take and use.
[Tue 11 Dec 2007, 3:33PM]
Great stuff, Grady! When I've had a chance to test it out I'll put your link up on the main Tabulate page. Thanks for creating it.
[Sat 29 Dec 2007, 2:52AM]
I confess, I found the directions a bit confusing at first (although, once you do it, it's quite simple), but got it working. Thanks!
[Sat 29 Dec 2007, 6:17AM]
Here's how I loaded in my iPhone over the air without sync from iTunes.
Step 2: Opened link from iPhone.
Step 3: Stopped loading and saved as bookmark.
Works like a charm. If inventivelabs could post it as a link such as above, all you would need to do is click it, stop the load, then add and edit the bookmark.
[Mon 31 Dec 2007, 10:52PM]
raulr: Agreed. Meantime folks, if you scroll up to Grady's comment above, and click on his name, you'll find his excellent bookmarklet which streamlines this whole process.
[Thu 3 Jan 2008, 10:56AM]
Is there a limit to the number of URLs on a page? I have my bookmarks saved as a web page and when I try to invoke Tabulate on that page I get an error. The error is "Tabulate-error:document-invalid"
Other pages I try work fine.
[Mon 14 Jan 2008, 12:22PM]
my biggest gripe with Tabulate is that it does not function at all within google reader (mobile or classic). i have no idea why this is, but its essential to open links in new windows when using a mobile rss reader.
[Mon 14 Jan 2008, 12:30PM]
vord: I use Tabulate with Google Reader (mobile) with no problems. What happens when you try to invoke it - does the flag appear in the top-left corner, or does that not even happen?
[Fri 1 Feb 2008, 1:11PM]
i noticed no one has mentioned the new 1.1.3 on the itouch ? would this effect anthing ? i am going to try tabulate, let you know what happens.
[Wed 20 Feb 2008, 6:04AM]
What is the difference between the Mac and Windows versions?
[Wed 20 Feb 2008, 9:19AM]
The Mac version is fully self-contained -- meaning it's faster to load. The Windows version loads over the wire, thus is slower and requires a network connection.
In my tests, only the Windows version will install using the method you're attempting. MobileSafari just can't cope with the size of the string for the Mac version.
[Mon 25 Feb 2008, 9:46AM]
It would be nice if I could dismiss tabulate on script links.
For example, I like to have Tabulator going when using NewsGator for iPhone because I can then open news articles in a new window. But there is a "Read" link on articles that (I guess) triggers a script that marks the article as read. When I click "read" link with Tabulator open I have no way to tell Tabulator to just allow the script to run.
[Sun 6 Apr 2008, 2:02PM]
i'm trying to use tabulate but it does not sync with iTunes, all my bookmarks are copied to my iPdone except Tabulate. It's really weird, any suggestions? Already tried turning on/off the iPhone and deleting all the bookmarks on the iphone
[Mon 16 Jun 2008, 2:23PM]
Is there any way to get tabulate to open/run every time
I open a page? This would make it so much smoother to use!
[Mon 16 Jun 2008, 2:29PM]
Nope, can't be done I'm afraid.
[Mon 24 Nov 2008, 5:38PM]
Why not add a way to bookmark this directly from the iphone?
[Fri 16 Jan 2009, 6:54AM]
I like this so much that I would like the same behaviour on my
desktop. I tried it on my mac with Safari and it kinda works, but
the graphics are not to good naturally, and it is not really
sophisticated enough really. Is there any alternative that you know
of that does this for desktop-browsing?
[Sat 17 Jan 2009, 9:51PM]
The site refers to a sidebar in which installation instructions
will be found, but I couldn't see one. Instead, I went to the demo
page, viewed the source, and created a bookmark by pasting in the
[Tue 20 Jan 2009, 12:40PM]
Thanks knirirr, I've fixed the sidebar.
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[Wed 20 May 2009, 7:45AM]
You say that the "clever method for installing Tabulate using
just your iPhone/iPod Touch currently only works with the slower
'Windows-compatible' version of Tabulate." I think you can make it
replace all instances of < with %3C and all > with %3E and
all & with %26 (because the bookmark format of the iPhone
doesn't accept these three characters).
[Tue 21 Jul 2009, 12:03PM]
I recently installed Tabulate on my iPod Touch running iPhone OS
3.0 by first installing the bookmarklet in Safari on my Mac Mini
and syncing Safari bookmarks with my iTouch using iTunes 8.2.0
The Tabulate icon appears on my iTouch at the top of a Safari
page but I cannot move the icon around and even when selecting a
link within a page cannot launch new webpages in a new tab.
Tabulate does not do anything -- it does not let me use tabbed
browsing in Safari on iTouch I still have to open a new window if I
want to have more than 1 page open at a time.
[Sun 19 Dec 2010, 10:10AM]
[Sun 19 Dec 2010, 10:18AM]
Hmmmm….I take back my question as it now seems to work just great on my stupid, basically-useless iPad, the most commercially-cynical product ever! (must have been the particular links I was trying the first time). Thanks for making this dumb ass toy a bit more functional.
(if you are wondering, I got the iPad as an unwanted gift with a loving INSCRIPTION from dad…thus making it unreturnable. Just part the aple cynicism I mentioned)
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